Riiiight Ianone.
Can you point me to the evidence PROVING God created the Earth?
the upper story leap .
by gregory koukl .
what's at heart here is not so much science and facts, but a philosophy of doing science which says that you can only talk about things which are scientific and you must remove any reference to a supernatural force whatsoever.i want to talk to you about what's happening in the vista school district.
Riiiight Ianone.
Can you point me to the evidence PROVING God created the Earth?
the upper story leap .
by gregory koukl .
what's at heart here is not so much science and facts, but a philosophy of doing science which says that you can only talk about things which are scientific and you must remove any reference to a supernatural force whatsoever.i want to talk to you about what's happening in the vista school district.
Yes I read the article. Did you bother to pull your head out of your arse before posting it?
i mentioned this in another forum then realized it would also fit here, so i edited it a little and here it is again.
a ministerial servants' head told me confidentially he and some friends had harrassed an oklahoma city sister who partook of the emblems by using miniaturized sound and voice making devices.
in some congregations the elder body and their closest pioneer sisters also don't like jws and ex-jws they think are big-mouths because they are afraid they will tell about things like child molesting.
When I read the starting post.....I thought of......
there seems to be a lot of folks here who are bitter and want nothing to do with organized religion (understandable!
) or the belief in a god who cares about us, and has a "plan".or even anyone who has actually read and studied the bible, and understands what's going on it it.
so many just take stuff out of context looking for "mistakes" and loopholes.
Sorry sheepish but you are comparing your "absolute truth" to a "natural law". Gravity does work. However it is not an absolute I will fall. There are many variables involved. It is relative. You would like to believe your moral absolute truth is comparable it is not.
Absolute Truth : “Something true for all people, at all times and in all places”.
Absolute truths are based on facts, not just through general consensus of a group. Consensus is usually formed by personal opinions and not based on facts.
Philosophers have argued about absolute truths forever. So instead of getting bogged down in how does absolute truth exist or not exist, let me ask "How does your belief in god constitute an absolute truth"?
for about a week or so now!
it all started one day when i was in the laundy room and i heard my husband pull up in the driveway, shut his door, unlock the door to the house, shut the house door, so i go down to greet him ( with a big kiss and hug, as i always do
anyway i get down stairs and he is not there so i assumed that he was already out feeding comet!
Legolas...my dear hottie....
You are "seeing" demons in your house. I suggest putting down the MJ bong....the crack pipe....and the booze....and the pills.....it's time to dry out.
i watched dr. phil yesterday, where they were highlighting the disappearance of natalee holloway who disappeared in aruba over 5 months ago, and amy bradley who vanished from a cruise ship 7 years ago.
i always assumed that these girls were raped and then murdered and they very likely could be, but the program highlighted the sex-slave trade that is growing in leaps and bounds all over the world.
i sat there and listened in shock as one guy revealed what happens to some of these girls during snuff movies.
"Enigmabastard"
LOL
the upper story leap .
by gregory koukl .
what's at heart here is not so much science and facts, but a philosophy of doing science which says that you can only talk about things which are scientific and you must remove any reference to a supernatural force whatsoever.i want to talk to you about what's happening in the vista school district.
Here's a radical answer: Teach science in science class. Teach creation and religion at church. Nuff said.
i watched dr. phil yesterday, where they were highlighting the disappearance of natalee holloway who disappeared in aruba over 5 months ago, and amy bradley who vanished from a cruise ship 7 years ago.
i always assumed that these girls were raped and then murdered and they very likely could be, but the program highlighted the sex-slave trade that is growing in leaps and bounds all over the world.
i sat there and listened in shock as one guy revealed what happens to some of these girls during snuff movies.
Just so we know the "truth" about crime. Violent crime is down 55% from 30 years ago. It has been treading downward for many years. From the FBI Crime Database:
Adjusted violent victimization ratesTotal violent crime | Aggravated assault | Simple assault | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Year | Murder | Rape | Robbery | ||||
1973 | 47.7 | 0.1 | 2.5 | 6.7 | 12.5 | 25.9 | |
1974 | 48.0 | 0.1 | 2.6 | 7.2 | 12.9 | 25.3 | |
1975 | 48.4 | 0.1 | 2.4 | 6.8 | 11.9 | 27.2 | |
1976 | 48.0 | 0.1 | 2.2 | 6.5 | 12.2 | 27.0 | |
1977 | 50.4 | 0.1 | 2.3 | 6.2 | 12.4 | 29.4 | |
1978 | 50.6 | 0.1 | 2.6 | 5.9 | 12.0 | 30.0 | |
1979 | 51.7 | 0.1 | 2.8 | 6.3 | 12.3 | 30.3 | |
1980 | 49.4 | 0.1 | 2.5 | 6.6 | 11.4 | 28.8 | |
1981 | 52.3 | 0.1 | 2.5 | 7.4 | 12.0 | 30.3 | |
1982 | 50.7 | 0.1 | 2.1 | 7.1 | 11.5 | 29.8 | |
1983 | 46.5 | 0.1 | 2.1 | 6.0 | 9.9 | 28.3 | |
1984 | 46.4 | 0.1 | 2.5 | 5.8 | 10.8 | 27.2 | |
1985 | 45.2 | 0.1 | 1.9 | 5.1 | 10.3 | 27.9 | |
1986 | 42.0 | 0.1 | 1.7 | 5.1 | 9.8 | 25.3 | |
1987 | 44.0 | 0.1 | 2.0 | 5.3 | 10.0 | 26.7 | |
1988 | 44.1 | 0.1 | 1.7 | 5.3 | 10.8 | 26.3 | |
1989 | 43.3 | 0.1 | 1.8 | 5.4 | 10.3 | 25.8 | |
1990 | 44.1 | 0.1 | 1.7 | 5.7 | 9.8 | 26.9 | |
1991 | 48.8 | 0.1 | 2.2 | 5.9 | 9.9 | 30.6 | |
1992 | 47.9 | 0.1 | 1.8 | 6.1 | 11.1 | 28.9 | |
1993 | 49.1 | 0.1 | 1.6 | 6.0 | 12.0 | 29.4 | |
1994 | 51.2 | 0.1 | 1.4 | 6.3 | 11.9 | 31.5 | |
1995 | 46.1 | 0.1 | 1.2 | 5.4 | 9.5 | 29.9 | |
1996 | 41.6 | 0.1 | 0.9 | 5.2 | 8.8 | 26.6 | |
1997 | 38.8 | 0.1 | 0.9 | 4.3 | 8.6 | 24.9 | |
1998 | 36.0 | 0.1 | 0.9 | 4.0 | 7.5 | 23.5 | |
1999 | 32.1 | 0.1 | 0.9 | 3.6 | 6.7 | 20.8 | |
2000 | 27.4 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 3.2 | 5.7 | 17.8 | |
2001 | 24.7 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 2.8 | 5.3 | 15.9 | |
2002 | 22.8 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 2.2 | 4.3 | 15.5 | |
2003 | 22.3 | 0.1 | 0.5 | 2.5 | 4.6 | 14.6 | |
2004 | 21.1 | 0.1 | 0.4 | 2.1 | 4.3 | 14.2 |
after reading jgnat's post i got to thinking about something that happened to me.
i was never baptized so the elders were limited on what they could do to me.
still they were able to make my life miserable through my mother so sometimes i towed the line.
So you accused the elder of impropriety? What specifically were you accusing him of? (If I may ask.)
it has been over 10 months now since i stopped going to the kingdom hall.
i had imagined how i would really find my way to god now that i was no longer being misled by the wts ( for - profit) publishing company.
i kept reading the bible, because people on jwd had told me how i would see it in a different light.
Fairchild....didn't you get the memo?
God is dead.